Friday, April 16, 2010

why is it bad to own a Xbox 360 and a PC ...

when most games are cheaper on the 360?cheaper as in, when you trade games like MW2 you could get $40 back :)why is it bad to own a Xbox 360 and a PC ...
people don't do their research and are under the impression that most of the 360's good games can be found on the pc.why is it bad to own a Xbox 360 and a PC ...
I don't like to trade-in old games, just in case I get nostalgic for them. PC games are definitely cheaper, not just when they come out, but throughout most of their lifetimes. Plus $5 Steam and Direct2Drive deals abound.I own both a 360 and a PC. I don't subscribe to Xbox Live Gold -- I question why I even have both systems since I have a PS3, other than the fact that I'm a completionist. There's Fable 2, Halo 3, Gears of War 2... I suppose that justifies its position on my shelf, sort of. I also have a bunch of games that were ''supposedly'' 360 exclusive, like Mass Effect (when it first came out) and Grand Theft Auto 4: Episodes from Liberty City. I ended up buying Mass Effect for PC later to get the better experience anyway.PS: Putting aside Gamespot's somewhat strange reviewing system, and looking at average collections of reviewer opinions on Gamerankings, the above-mentioned 3 games are the only ''great'' exclusive non-racing games.
there is really only one group of fanboys here that think that is bad...I think we all know who they are.
[QUOTE=''SakusEnvoy'']I don't like to trade-in old games, just in case I get nostalgic for them. PC games are definitely cheaper, not just when they come out, but throughout most of their lifetimes. Plus $5 Steam and Direct2Drive deals abound.I own both a 360 and a PC. I don't subscribe to Xbox Live Gold -- I question why I even have both systems since I have a PS3, other than the fact that I'm a completionist. There's Fable 2, Halo 3, Gears of War 2... I suppose that justifies its position on my shelf, sort of. I also have a bunch of games that were ''supposedly'' 360 exclusive, like Mass Effect (when it first came out) and Grand Theft Auto 4: Episodes from Liberty City. I ended up buying Mass Effect for PC later to get the better experience anyway.[/QUOTE]

Idk i got everything, and Xbox i use for most games. 1 vs 100 is the greatest game EVER. where else would you learn that over 15,000 don't know what Crtl on the keyboard means, but they know who miley cyrus is
Well from what I hear, Halo 3 %26 Forza 3 both look %26 play better on the PC. :P
It isn't bad, I found it to be the most wise decision to own a PC and a X360.
It isn't, but Cows would like people to think it's a rather redundant combination. Odd, as I'm able to enjoy a plethora of unique titles on both my 360 and PC.
For me, there's way too many games on the 360 you could find on the PC or the PS3 to justify a purchase.
It's not. People for some reason think a lot of 360's games are on PC, when in fact, it's not really true. There are certainly few, but not enough to forego one or the other.
Generally people look to diversify their gaming experience and considering not all but a chunk of 360's big titles are multiplat on PC it isn't considered the best option. But its all a matter of opinion and tastes. Some people may buy a system for a few particular titles, while other would argue that. Personally when I got my Wiia couple ofyears backI only got itfor like 3 games Zelda, SMG, and SSBB.
I think this opinion was also common last generation, by the way - that if you had a PC, there was no reason to buy an Xbox 1. This was despite the fact that Halo 2 and Ninja Gaiden were exclusive until 2007, and Xbox 1 also had Panzer Dragoon Orta, Project Gotham Racing 2 and Forza Motorsport. But it wasn't enough to counter the prevailing idea that a good PC and a PS2 was all you needed.And now, slowly - and this is a credit to the PS3's onslaught of exclusives over the last 2 years, people are starting to think the same way about this generation.
[QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']people don't do their research and are under the impression that most of the 360's good games can be found on the pc.[/QUOTE]

No it just makes a hell of a lot more sense to get a PS3 when you have a decent PC, at least for the general core gamer. And TC it isn't bad, it just isn't optimal.
[QUOTE=''hiphops_savior'']For me, there's way too many games on the 360 you could find on the PC or the PS3 to justify a purchase.[/QUOTE]



I thought about that for a while, but in terms of some of the truly better multiplats (i.e Bayonetta), and there are still a decent amount of exclusives, for $200, it seemed really worth it for me at least.
[QUOTE=''Eddie-Vedder''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']people don't do their research and are under the impression that most of the 360's good games can be found on the pc.[/QUOTE] No it just makes a hell of a lot more sense to get a PS3 when you have a decent PC, at least for the general core gamer. And TC it isn't bad, it just isn't optimal.[/QUOTE]less is more?
[QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Eddie-Vedder''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']people don't do their research and are under the impression that most of the 360's good games can be found on the pc.[/QUOTE] No it just makes a hell of a lot more sense to get a PS3 when you have a decent PC, at least for the general core gamer. And TC it isn't bad, it just isn't optimal.[/QUOTE]less is more?[/QUOTE]In the eyes of the PS3 fans, perhaps.
It's worth it for streaming video to the TV alone. The games are just a bonus! :P
[QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Eddie-Vedder''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']people don't do their research and are under the impression that most of the 360's good games can be found on the pc.[/QUOTE] No it just makes a hell of a lot more sense to get a PS3 when you have a decent PC, at least for the general core gamer. And TC it isn't bad, it just isn't optimal.[/QUOTE]less is more?[/QUOTE]http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27164059Less? There are more, and most of those high quality PS3 exclusives are from post 2007, unlike the 360 that has less and mostly from 2005-2007. Plus that list doens't include games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 and 2, and MLB the Show etc.
[QUOTE=''110million''][QUOTE=''hiphops_savior'']For me, there's way too many games on the 360 you could find on the PC or the PS3 to justify a purchase.[/QUOTE] I thought about that for a while, but in terms of some of the truly better multiplats (i.e Bayonetta), and there are still a decent amount of exclusives, for $200, it seemed really worth it for me at least.[/QUOTE]

Again still bringing it back to opinion and tastes of the gamer. Example 360 has a lot of titles that are PS3/360 multiplat (FFXIII) that arn't on PC. So if you only own a PC and a 360 then you have a pretty good selection. But people look at this as PC+360 or PC+PS3 or PC+Wii and out of all of those combo's the 360 is the one with the least amount of titles not on the PC.
[QUOTE=''Eddie-Vedder''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']

[QUOTE=''Eddie-Vedder''] No it just makes a hell of a lot more sense to get a PS3 when you have a decent PC, at least for the general core gamer. And TC it isn't bad, it just isn't optimal.[/QUOTE]

less is more?

[/QUOTE]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27164059



Less? There are more, and most of those high quality PS3 exclusives are from post 2007, unlike the 360 that has less and mostly from 2005-2007. Plus that list doens't include games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 and 2, and MLB the Show etc.[/QUOTE]



God...please not this again. Drop it.

Anyone still buying Dante's Inferno afte ...

A lot of people are dissapointed about the game now after seeing the reviews. IGN gave it a 7.5, 1UP gave it a C+, and G4 gave it a 3/5. Are you still going to buy the game? I myself will buy it but will probably wait until a price drop.Anyone still buying Dante's Inferno afte ...
I haven't seen any review yet and anyways I don't need them. Just for playing the demo I found out that this game isn't for me so I will not buy it. Anyone still buying Dante's Inferno afte ...
I was never gonna buy it, but these reviews are my vindication to all the people who called me a ''GoW fanboy who is just butt hurt that DI will be better'' :P But honestly speaking, DI looked like a shallow God of War. If I had X360 only, I might have bought it, but I also have a PS3, so I'm gonna wait for GoW3.
Yes, I will still get it. I loved the demo, and could use more hack and slash action games.
I really like the demo, but I'll wait until I can get it for a much cheaper price. Like 40 or maybe even 50 if I feel like I have enough disposable income.
[QUOTE=''Phoenix534'']Yes, I will still get it. I loved the demo, and could use more hack and slash action games.[/QUOTE]

Same here. I a really wanting another game like that I might pick it up Tuesday at the $60 price unless I find it cheaper.
Meh. From the demo I could see it coming. It felt very mediocre.
will wait for a price drop. my cash will go on AVP this month i think
Average game gets average scores. Big shocker. I'll save my money for GOW3.
yes I will get it. Along with other great releases. but not on launch day.
[QUOTE=''II_Seraphim_II'']I was never gonna buy it, but these reviews are my vindication to all the people who called me a ''GoW fanboy who is just butt hurt that DI will be better'' :P But honestly speaking, DI looked like a shallow God of War. If I had X360 only, I might have bought it, but I also have a PS3, so I'm gonna wait for GoW3.[/QUOTE]



It's Infamous/Prototype all over again haha.
I didn't like the look of the game, and the unoriginal gameplay. I wasn't going to buy it regardless of the scores it got.
I was tempted to get if i had more money. If i had to choose this or God or War



God of War>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
Was never gonna get it. The demo did nothing for me when I played it. This is a game I'll perhaps pick up when it sees a super price drop.
This is what happens when your game is solid but offers nothing new. Being a blatant rip off of another game isn't enough folks.
The only thing I use reviews for is a frame to see wether I should buy it release day or 6 months down the line.SO i'll wait till it's cheaper maybe 30 bux
[QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide''][QUOTE=''II_Seraphim_II'']I was never gonna buy it, but these reviews are my vindication to all the people who called me a ''GoW fanboy who is just butt hurt that DI will be better'' :P But honestly speaking, DI looked like a shallow God of War. If I had X360 only, I might have bought it, but I also have a PS3, so I'm gonna wait for GoW3.[/QUOTE]



It's Infamous/Prototype all over again haha. [/QUOTE]

So true, and there people hated on me because I said Infamous would be better. I'm glad I switched to the new 3G Crystal Balls; they haven't let me down once :D
Yes I will. I thought the demo was awesome.
I enjoyed the demo so I'll probably pick it up sometime. It may be after a price drop or two though.
I always thought the game looked crap, and after I played the demo, I was totally convinced that it is crap. I hardly care for reviews.

Why do people take it seriously when one ...

For example, with many PS3 game people say teh X360 isn't strong enough, the devs said so... Yet most of the times the devs just say it can't be done(with no reasoning-Heavy rain, MAG), or usually say because of blu-ray-(eg: KZ2, UC2-the dev also says because of the motion blur as well, but lol). Yet games that could not be done previously: GTA4, DMC4, MGS4/raiden(will probably have better graphics than MGS4), also red faction with it's incredible physics(should only be possible on cell:P). At this point don't people see it is fallacy?

Ouch, The Grinder and Gladiator A.D

Well the Wii just lost the Grinder's exclusivity and Gladiator A.D. got a new name and an uglier, kiddier, new look. Also I think The Grinder looks like a rip off of L4D (idea wise) What are you guy's thoughts on this?Ouch, The Grinder and Gladiator A.D
Was anyone hyping these?Ouch, The Grinder and Gladiator A.D
If you've seen the footage for Gladiator AD recently...then i don't know why you'd care about the change.
Don't think anyone cares about the games ever since the Conduit flopped.
Uh ownage or something?
Whats the new name?
[QUOTE=''C-Lee'']Whats the new name?[/QUOTE] Tournament of Legends
lol high voltage = high suckage
Tournament of Legends or Gladiator A.D. or whatever the heck its called looks very meh. The gameplay videos before failed to grab my attention and the new title puts the nail in the coffin for me.As for The Grinder, one of the things going for it was the fact that it was a Wii exclusive. Since it's now going to be on consoles instead, why would you buy this when you could get Left 4 Dead from a proven developer like Valve?
It looked meh to begin with.
[QUOTE=''ColdP1zza'']Well the Wii just lost the Grinder's exclusivity and Gladiator A.D. got a new name and an uglier, kiddier, new look. Also I think The Grinder looks like a rip off of L4D (idea wise) What are you guy's thoughts on this?[/QUOTE] Ugglier? Kiddier? What are you talking about?Yep. Uglier...
Gladiator AD looked crappy from the footage I've seen so I don't care about that. As for the Grinder, I don't seee where there going with it. They hyped it as L4D for Wii when it was exclusive. Now that its multiplat, wouldn't it be smarter to just buy L4D on the other systems?
[QUOTE=''bc1391'']Gladiator AD looked crappy from the footage I've seen so I don't care about that. As for the Grinder, I don't seee where there going with it. They hyped it as L4D for Wii when it was exclusive. Now that its multiplat, wouldn't it be smarter to just buy L4D on the other systems?[/QUOTE]They are simply showing their true colors now. High Voltage Software played Wii-only owners with The Conduit..
After the Conduit flopped, I don't think anyone really cares about what the developer is doing anymore.
[QUOTE=''Homesrfan''][QUOTE=''ColdP1zza'']Well the Wii just lost the Grinder's exclusivity and Gladiator A.D. got a new name and an uglier, kiddier, new look. Also I think The Grinder looks like a rip off of L4D (idea wise) What are you guy's thoughts on this?[/QUOTE] Ugglier? Kiddier? What are you talking about?Yep. Uglier...[/QUOTE]wow it sure looks better,but is it still bloody and gory. I mean that was the whole point of the game
[QUOTE=''foxhound_fox'']After the Conduit flopped, I don't think anyone really cares about what the developer is doing anymore.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. That game was garbage...
[QUOTE=''Sky-''][QUOTE=''bc1391'']

Gladiator AD looked crappy from the footage I've seen so I don't care about that. As for the Grinder, I don't seee where there going with it. They hyped it as L4D for Wii when it was exclusive. Now that its multiplat, wouldn't it be smarter to just buy L4D on the other systems?

[/QUOTE]



They are simply showing their true colors now. High Voltage Software played Wii-only owners with The Conduit..[/QUOTE]



Not really, its not like The Conduit was a break out success.
The Conduit was great...graphics wise.Multiplayer was decent too. But the Story was horrid.I lost all hope for High Voltage when Gladiator A.D. changed.I will still get The Grinder.

Fallout: New Vegas Debut Trailer HD

LinkifiedCan't wait. :)Hope it lives up to F3.... maybe with a better main plot.Fallout: New Vegas Debut Trailer HD
[QUOTE=''angelkimne'']LinkifiedCan't wait. :)Hope it lives up to F3.... maybe with a better main plot.[/QUOTE] augh another STALKER RIP OFF.. post apocalyptic is soo overplayed:roll:/sarcasm ..sorry its only that ppl always say fallout when they see games using that setting...8)Fallout: New Vegas Debut Trailer HD
Fallout 3 scored an 8.5 with an impressive engine but flawed gameplay.Fallout 1 and2 scored 8.5 with a horrible engine but impressive gameplay.That's the difference.If this lives up to Fallout 1 %26 2 I'll eat a bag of twiglets.
I loved me' some Fallout. :)
Dammit! Beaten by a minute, again...
[QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Dammit! Beaten by a minute, again...[/QUOTE]You can still delete your post which deletes your topic so long as nobody posts in it.
[QUOTE=''Fried_Shrimp'']Fallout 3 scored an 8.5 with an impressive engine but flawed gameplay.Fallout 1 and2 scored 8.5 with a horrible engine but impressive gameplay.That's the difference.If this lives up to Fallout 1 %26 2 I'll eat a bag of twiglets.[/QUOTE]Fallout 3 scored a 9 on pc and 360. Let's hope this can live up to it, I don't trust obsidian though Alpha Protocool looks ****
About time they featured Sinatra XODo want.
[QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer''][QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Dammit! Beaten by a minute, again...[/QUOTE]You can still delete your post which deletes your topic so long as nobody posts in it.[/QUOTE]



Too late for that :(
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
[QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Too late for that :([/QUOTE]Something to remember for future reference.
[QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW''][QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer''][QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Dammit! Beaten by a minute, again...[/QUOTE]You can still delete your post which deletes your topic so long as nobody posts in it.[/QUOTE] Too late for that :([/QUOTE]that's my bad....i didn't even see this one, saw the other one first
I wanna see some gameplay vids. :(
[QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer''][QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Too late for that :([/QUOTE]Something to remember for future reference.[/QUOTE]i delete MY message...does that mean he can delete it now?
[QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer''][QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Too late for that :([/QUOTE]Something to remember for future reference.[/QUOTE]



Indeed, thanks for letting me know.
[QUOTE=''xsubtownerx'']I wanna see some gameplay vids. :([/QUOTE]



Teaser first to get us pumped you know how that works. D;



I must say I didn't expect the game to be out so soon, I mean Fall 2010? Let's just hope so.
[QUOTE=''xsubtownerx'']I wanna see some gameplay vids. :([/QUOTE]Considering the game's coming out in Autumn, it shouldn't be too long.
Helghast cameo appearance for the debut trailer, huh?:P Seriously, it was pretty neat. Maybe we will get some gameplay footage soon.
[QUOTE=''CDUB316''][QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer''][QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW'']Too late for that :([/QUOTE]Something to remember for future reference.[/QUOTE]i delete MY message...does that mean he can delete it now?[/QUOTE]He might be able to too, Admiral should give it a try.
check out mr helghast at the end lol.

Why is it that all the best games are in ...

Except for a few first person games like Half-Life and Deus Ex almost all of the highest rated games are third person.1. Mass Effect 1/22. MGS43. Uncharted 24. Zelda5. Grand Theft AutoI don't know, but I may be wrong but it seems like the most critically acclaimed games are third personI could say a game like Borderlands is fun, but it doesn't have the characters and story like Mass Effect.Why is it that all the best games are in ...
For one thing, Taste varies. I don't know if this is true, it may be a coincidence, but who knows.:PWhy is it that all the best games are in ...
There's more to do in third-person games. Platforming/traversal gameplay would be difficult to do in first-person. Mirror's Edge was fairly good in this respect, but imagine performing the climbing mechanics in Uncharted 2 in first-person. Not so good, I bet.
  1. GTA
  2. GTA
  3. GTA
  4. GTA
  5. GTA

There's no real reason, some things are and some things aren't.
it's hard to identify with a character when all u see is a gun the whole time....more face time with third person views
Maybe you shouldn't reduce the success of one game to just one element. Try being a little open-minded. I also recommend looking up how game development works.
More games are third person than third. But can't forget about Halo, Resistance, KZ2, Oblivion(if you play it in FP,) Fallout 3(if you play it in FP,) Bioshock, CODs, Half-Life games, L4Ds. I think that's enough to invalidate your point.
what about infamous :cry:
Third-person games are more diverse than first-person games.
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  • Gameinformer gives Bad Company 2 a 9.5

    Can't wait.Gameinformer gives Bad Company 2 a 9.5
    I can't wait. I'm playing the demo right now.



    :)Gameinformer gives Bad Company 2 a 9.5
    Leave my wallet alone 2010! This can't be legal!
    Well, I liked the first one, and this is the sequel. Should be oodles of fun.
    outta have on helluva single player, cause the online sure is lackluster
    I love me some Battlefield, MW2 on the other hand...
    [QUOTE=''SAGE_OF_FIRE'']Can't wait.[/QUOTE]One thing about quotes from reviews(on anything, not just games) is that they are editied to resemble something else. Not surprised: the game looks very well made.
    Impressive. I was actually expecting scores more in the eight range. It may only be one review, but still I didn't expect this from Gameinformer. Doesn't really matter to me either way though. I'm not too interested in the game.
    I have already preordered the game today, the limited edition version, can't wait man, I didn't expect it to score high from them after they gave Killzone 2 a 8.75.
    [QUOTE=''mitu123'']I have already preordered the game today, the limite edition version, can't wait man, I didn't expect it to score high from them after they gave Killzone 2 a 8.75.[/QUOTE]

    I didn't like Killzone 2 :P. But I was wondering what do you get in the Limited Edition?
    [QUOTE=''SAGE_OF_FIRE''][QUOTE=''mitu123'']I have already preordered the game today, the limite edition version, can't wait man, I didn't expect it to score high from them after they gave Killzone 2 a 8.75.[/QUOTE] I didn't like Killzone 2 :P. But I was wondering what do you get in the Limited Edition? [/QUOTE] This vid will help.:D
    [QUOTE=''mitu123''][QUOTE=''SAGE_OF_FIRE''][QUOTE=''mitu123'']I have already preordered the game today, the limite edition version, can't wait man, I didn't expect it to score high from them after they gave Killzone 2 a 8.75.[/QUOTE] I didn't like Killzone 2 :P. But I was wondering what do you get in the Limited Edition? [/QUOTE] This vid will help.:D[/QUOTE] Oh so you just unlock stuff right away.
    Demo is good, but i hate how noone uses mics.. for a MP shooter on the 360, noone with mics is unacceptable.
    [QUOTE=''kidcool189'']outta have on helluva single player, cause the online sure is lackluster[/QUOTE]

    Um, no.
    Awesome score. Can't wait to try the PS3 demo and the PC beta to see if it good. I probably won't get it day one through, since I am saving up for GOWIII.
    [QUOTE=''SAGE_OF_FIRE''][QUOTE=''mitu123''][QUOTE=''SAGE_OF_FIRE''] I didn't like Killzone 2 :P. But I was wondering what do you get in the Limited Edition? [/QUOTE] This vid will help.:D[/QUOTE] Oh so you just unlock stuff right away.[/QUOTE]Yes, but the Limited Edition is the same price as the Standard, basically the first printing of the game is the Limited Edition, then on the second and plus printing it will just be the standard edition.
    Yeah, the party system doesn't work well when trying to play these larger scale FPS online games...on the other hand it works well when you play with buds that have the game. Eh. If you have those same buds, you can do the same thing on PS3. Just make the best out of it.

    The next MW perhaps.
    This will be, without a doubt, one of the defining multiplayer experiences of this generation.
    Yes please. March can't come soon enough.

    sony now loses $18 for every ps3 sold

    linkThe article links to this articleSony now loses 6 cents for every dollor of ps3 hardware sales.They expect to reduce the production cost by 15% by march.Combined with software sales, Sony is making a nice profit :)Nice drop from the $40 loss posted not too long ago.sony now loses $18 for every ps3 sold
    Everytime I see these things, it's never official. :( BRB----------EDIT :
    Thanks for the links. This seems to be on the up and up. :PHere is the article for SW :P :''February 4th, 2010 at 1:14 pm - Although the PlayStation 3 Slim has prompted a resurgence in Sony's home console business, prompting 10.8 million PS3 sales in just nine months, the console is still losing money for the company. At least, the console's hardware is losing money, since software sales turn this into a profit. However, this hardware loss is nowhere near as significant a loss as it used to be. Following the console's price-cut to $299 in the US and the release of the revised hardware with the PS3 Slim, Sony has been able to reduce it's loss to $18 on each console sold in the US. Although it's harder to work out in the UK with 17.5 per cent VAT to think about, with the higher price and the current dollar-to-pound exchange rate, it wouldn't be out of the question to suggest that the console is turning a profit in Britain. This piece of information is found within an interview with Sony's Chief Financial Officer Nobuyuki Oneda, who explained that the company expects to continue reducing the production costs of the PS3 by 15 per cent by March 31st 2011, which is expected to result in ''tens of billions of yen.'' It was then revealed that Sony loses approximately six cents for every dollar of PS3 hardware sales, or $18 for every $299 console sold in the States. This means that with the console's approximate attach rate of seven games per console, the company is now earning a healthy profit on the PS3's combined hardware and software sales.''

    sony now loses $18 for every ps3 sold
    yeah im pretty sure its correct. If not I apologize
    Thats true but they also just posted a 827 million dollar profit.
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Although the PlayStation 3 Slim has prompted a resurgence in Sony's home console business, prompting 10.8 million PS3 sales in just nine months, the console is still losing money for the company. At least, the console's hardware is losing money, since software sales turn this into a profit. However, this hardware loss is nowhere near as significant a loss as it used to be.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling a lot of people will ignore this sentence. :P
    [QUOTE=''Lionheart08''][QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Although the PlayStation 3 Slim has prompted a resurgence in Sony's home console business, prompting 10.8 million PS3 sales in just nine months, the console is still losing money for the company. At least, the console's hardware is losing money, since software sales turn this into a profit. However, this hardware loss is nowhere near as significant a loss as it used to be.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling a lot of people will ignore this sentence. :P[/QUOTE]
    well its progress when it came out didnt they lose 200 per console
    [QUOTE=''murat8'']well its progress when it came out didnt they lose 200 per console[/QUOTE]thats correct
    [QUOTE=''Lionheart08''][QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Although the PlayStation 3 Slim has prompted a resurgence in Sony's home console business, prompting 10.8 million PS3 sales in just nine months, the console is still losing money for the company. At least, the console's hardware is losing money, since software sales turn this into a profit. However, this hardware loss is nowhere near as significant a loss as it used to be.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling a lot of people will ignore this sentence. :P[/QUOTE]What sentence?:?Anyways, the PS3 is losing a ton of money, lolz, lolz, lolz. :P----------....
    I will edit my first post and tweak it to show that part, lol...but SW has a habit of being blind where it wants to be blind. :P
    a minor loss....but seems that they make profit as a whole in the gaiming department maybe, they can give consumer another price cut? It磗 not as crazy as it sounds...$50 or something like that
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy''][QUOTE=''Lionheart08''][QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Although the PlayStation 3 Slim has prompted a resurgence in Sony's home console business, prompting 10.8 million PS3 sales in just nine months, the console is still losing money for the company. At least, the console's hardware is losing money, since software sales turn this into a profit. However, this hardware loss is nowhere near as significant a loss as it used to be.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling a lot of people will ignore this sentence. :P[/QUOTE]What sentence?:?[/QUOTE]The part I bolded, I increased the size this time around.
    [QUOTE=''Sokittoya'']linkThe article links to this articleSony now loses 6 cents for every dollor of ps3 hardware sales.They expect to reduce the production cost by 15% by march.Combined with software sales, Sony is making a nice profit :)Nice drop from the $40 loss posted not too long ago.[/QUOTE]



    $18 million per console? Really? What, are they putting in nuclear reactors now?



    No, no, I kid. I know they still lose money. It's not really news.
    [QUOTE=''Lionheart08''][QUOTE=''SolidTy''][QUOTE=''Lionheart08'']I have a feeling a lot of people will ignore this sentence. :P[/QUOTE]What sentence?:?Anyways, the PS3 is losing a ton of money, lolz, lolz, lolz. :P----------....
    I will edit my first post and tweak it to show that part, lol...but SW has a habit of being blind where it wants to be blind. :P[/QUOTE]The part I bolded, I increased the size this time around.[/QUOTE]Dude, I know. :P :lol: Why did you edit out the rest of my post, it gives away my joke. :P
    Sorry, I guess my joke wasn't as apparent as I thought. :PI said ''what sentence'', since you said ''people will ignore the sentence''. I thought when I said ''I would edit my first post'' and that ''SW has a habit of being blind''I gave the joke away. My bad either way for not making my joke more clear. :PFinally, I ended my joke with ''Anyways, the PS3 is losing money, lolz, lolz, lolz.'' I thought that was a dead giveaway as well.:P
    I did edit my first, original post by the way, highlighting what you pointed out, except I also put it in Blue at the top of the page...but I guess you missed that I did that also, along with the other stuff. :P It's all good. :)
    Yes, SW will ignore that sentence though, no doubt, I agree. :)
    Cha ching
    by the time the console becomes profitable, MS will cut the price of the x360>>>>> Sony shall cut the PS3 price >>>> the profit is gone .............. this chasing game will never end, but sadly MS is always a step ahead.
    [QUOTE=''djsifer01'']Thats true but they also just posted a 827 million dollar profit.[/QUOTE]the company as a whole did... not the videogames divisionit also will be very difficult to figure out how much their videogames division makes... since they have combined that division with their PC division
    [QUOTE=''djsifer01'']Thats true but they also just posted a 827 million dollar profit.[/QUOTE]



    There's no way the PS3 generated that kind of cash.. :lol:
    Quite sad that 3 years on and theyre still losing money on it. To the gamer, the addition of that expensive blu ray drive hasn't paid off imo.
    [QUOTE=''Anjunaddict'']Quite sad that 3 years on and theyre still losing money on it. To the gamer, the addition of that expensive blu ray drive hasn't paid off imo.[/QUOTE]while that may be true... its hard to argue that the ps3 isnt the best value for your buck
    [QUOTE=''ogvampire'']while that may be true... its hard to argue that the ps3 isnt the best value for your buck[/QUOTE]I think I read the Sony Games Division is at 200+ Million out of that 827 Million, from another Sony Sales thread. I'm not into sales, but it's around this first page.There was a link in that Sony Official 33.5 Million PS3's sold thread.

    The Grinder going Multiplatform, due Hal ...

    http://wii.ign.com/articles/106/1066623p1.htmlHm, why even make it for the Wii then if its just going to be inferior? Hopefully the Wii version will be significantly different in order to warrant a purchase.The Grinder going Multiplatform, due Hal ...
    Please read the forums. There is already a topic here.The Grinder going Multiplatform, due Hal ...
    Shoot, missed it. O wells Mods please lock this.
    TBH, I liked it better when it was releasing this year and only on the Wii, now I just dont care.

    How do you know PS3 owners don't have de ...

    So I see a lot of people saying 360 owners cannot claim ownage because of ME2, which is partially right because whilst it isn't exclusive, it isn't on PS3 and therefore the 360 gains advantage over the PS3 in some sense. But then there are a lot of people claiming that it doesn't matter because they can play it on their PC. THEN we have all these people claiming that everybody who says that is a liar!Care to prove that guys? I'm sure there are some people who lack a PC decent enough to play ME2 but still use the argument that it's multiplat and therefore it doesn't count in favour of the 360, but honestly, how can those of you claiming that every PS3 owner or 'cow' doesn't have a PC decent enough to play ME2 prove it? Seems to me like you're scared of the fact that ME2 is multiplat and simply refuse to believe that there people out there who can enjoy ME2 without a 360.Really you people are just as bad as the people who are lying about having a PC that can run ME2.How do you know PS3 owners don't have de ...
    Don't forget the other generalization. Lemmings have CRYSIS to play on uber rigs, and all have PC's too.:PI am not into all that stereotyping stuff, but for some reason, it persists.:(How do you know PS3 owners don't have de ...
    http://screencast.com/t/ZjcwZDA2ODproof enough?
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Don't forget the other generalization. Lemmings have CRYSIS to play on uber rigs, and all have PC's too.:PI am not into all that stereotyping stuff, but for some reason, it persists.:([/QUOTE]



    The world would be a better place if everybody on SW just believed each other.
    [QUOTE=''snowyfleury'']http://screencast.com/t/ZjcwZDA2ODproof enough?[/QUOTE]



    I wasn't really asking for proof, but I still wouldn't say that proves anything.
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Don't forget the other generalization. Lemmings have CRYSIS to play on uber rigs, and all have PC's too.:PI am not into all that stereotyping stuff, but for some reason, it persists.:([/QUOTE]I laugh out loud every time i come into a thread and someone says, ''But cows will just play *insert game thats on pc/360* on their ultimate gamming rigs since they all have them.'' People need to realize this is a gamming forum, the majority of us here have gamming as our hobby so yes a lot of us do have good gaming rigs, the only reason it gets turned into owange is because some 360 games also go on PC making it multiplat. Lemmings would be using the same argument if a good amount of ps3 exclusives went to pc, making the multiplat.
    Because it's a funny stereotype to say that all PS3 owners have high-end rigs. :P
    I have a gaming computer and I have(had)YLOD) a PS3, there you go.
    [QUOTE=''tagyhag'']Because it's a funny stereotype to say that all PS3 owners have high-end rigs. :P[/QUOTE]



    Well laugh it up while you can, because your little joke has caused me a great deal of grief.
    [QUOTE=''samuraiguns'']I have a gaming computer and I have(had)YLOD) a PS3, there you go.[/QUOTE]



    I'm not saying you don't bro! I just wanted to put those saying you don't on the hot spot!
    Scared that we might have to face that its multiplat? Funny because cows seem to be more bothered by this issue more than lemmings. Cows say that they CAN see keyword CAN play Mass effect 2 on their mighty pcs but i have yet to see any say that they WILL see keyword WILL play Mass effect 2 on their mighty pcs
    [QUOTE=''AdmiralRJW''][QUOTE=''tagyhag'']Because it's a funny stereotype to say that all PS3 owners have high-end rigs. :P[/QUOTE]



    Well laugh it up while you can, because your little joke has caused me a great deal of grief.[/QUOTE]



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    I know it for the simple fact that it isn't true, just like the fact that every lemming doesn't have one and the average PC user doesn't have an uber rig.That's how.
    I can be considered a cow (god I hate to be called that) and I sure as hell have a Gaming rig. Actually I am playing ME2 max out =D God the game is wonderful! Fav race until now as got to be the Drell (Thane is one sexy alien =P)
    So you are asking us to put pics of our rigs?Eh no.I only have a ps3 and 360 anyways.
    i have a decent PC, but that was long before i got my PS3 ( 1 year interval) .
    [QUOTE=''heretrix'']I know it for the simple fact that it isn't true, just like the fact that every lemming doesn't have one and the average PC user doesn't have an uber rig.That's how.[/QUOTE]



    Don't you think that's a bit silly?
    we all know that cows who say they have gaming rigs are liars :P
    [QUOTE=''Regisland'']So you are asking us to put pics of our rigs?Eh no.I only have a ps3 and 360 anyways.[/QUOTE]



    For the last time NO!



    I'm not asking anybody to prove anything! Read the OP for crying out loud!
    They only do it because cows always hide behind PC for bash Xbox 360's library, then attack it and claim PS3 has better graphiz than PC. If they know so much about PC, they all must own one!

    AVP multiplayer demo

    anyone else having an absolutely insane time trying to even connect to a game? it just say's searching for games forever..AVP multiplayer demo
    Invite people then search for a game.

    faster that way.AVP multiplayer demo
    for me it's fine, but people leave right after which is the problem for me
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  • Favorite Period of the Decade? (2000-Ear ...

    (I will be counting January 2010 as part of last decade since it is really just one month more and i then get to include Mass Effect 2)This decade had lots of great moments, but i think some periods showed the most significant gaming enjoyment. For me, i used to really look back at Winter of 2007, a winter filled with Halo3, CODMW, Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Super Mario Galaxy!!! It ws amazing. However, that may be challenged by actually this period now, Winter of 2009/2010....... Mass Effect 2, AC2, CODMW2, U2, and others have made this winter one of the best i have ever had, and it has kept me busier than ever. This decade, for me, saved the best for lastWhat was your favorite part of this decade, a time when you had the most fun with your console andrelished in the mostfantastic game releases?Favorite Period of the Decade? (2000-Ear ...
    I remember 2001-2002 for GTA3, Vice City, and MGS2. I might get flamed for this, but I really loved 2008. GTAIV, MGS4, Resistance 2, Gears 2, and Fallout 3. Very underrated year if you ask me.Favorite Period of the Decade? (2000-Ear ...
    My favorite was 2000, because that's when most of my favorite games of all time were released. Chrono Cross, Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy IX, WWF No Mercy, Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, Pokemon Gold and Silver, Grandia II, and Marvel Vs. Capcom 2. Awesome gaming year. My favorite.
    2001/2002 was pretty sweet. The PS2, Xbox and Gamecube had all just landed and although the Dreamcast was in its final days it was still giving me loads of great games.
    2001-2003 was the best imo

    Did WKC really flop?

    I am only going to rent WKC friday,but from what I have seen on the player reviews here at GS,it is pretty good,so did it flop like many people are saying?(question to people that played it)[IMG]http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt291/CoffeeInThatNebula/white-knight-chronicles-089-1248977.jpg[/IMG]Did WKC really flop?
    It was hyped AA and received a 6 so yeah it flopped. Those who are playing it are saying its not that bad so give it a shot if you want.Did WKC really flop?
    Definitely a flop, but that's just by SW rules. If you're interested in it, get it; don't let some review dictate your decision.
    It was Hyped A, possibly AA. GS didn't like it much.It got bad scores in Japan a few years back, and it's just an old game. The fact we got it in 2010 is kind of tragic, and certainly didn't help the scores of the game.It's a flop in any event, but one of those older games that have a certain feel. I would check out Metacritic, and search to see what IGN, GI, and a few others scored it before you decide to omit it. I personally never go by just one site, or one reviewer. I go with multiple if I'm on the fence.

    All WKC reviewsGT 7.6/10Eurogamer 8/10GS 6/10IGN 5.1/10Gamezone 8/10game informer 7.25/10Game revolution B-POM UK 8/10Well and from all people who tried the game seems its more like a 7/10 game but GS and IGN were very harsh in reviewing it.
    It's a flop, period. The game was announced in 20062006And it's barely out now and it looks NOTHING like the 2006 video. Looks like a PS2 game at times.Flop.
    This game was hyped by cows and some even used it in their ''why teh PS3 has 2010 on lockdown'' lists.It flopped bigtime.Deal with it.
    [QUOTE=''GabeNewellsPie'']This game was hyped by cows and some even used it in their ''why teh PS3 has 3010 on lockdown'' lists.It flopped bigtime.Deal with it.[/QUOTE]Sorry,I dont accept fanboy opinions.
    Yeh it flopped, still MAG met the hype, when even PS3 owners doubted it.
    [QUOTE=''Regisland''][QUOTE=''GabeNewellsPie'']This game was hyped by cows and some even used it in their ''why teh PS3 has 3010 on lockdown'' lists.It flopped bigtime.Deal with it.[/QUOTE]Sorry,I dont accept fanboy opinions.[/QUOTE]



    While he is a fanboy, his post is kinda true.



    The game did appear on a lot of PS3 2010 lineup lists, and was hyped about AA. So yes it flopped.
    According to GS it flopped since hype was AA but the game is getting mixed reviews. I'm sure the game is better than what the 6 in the score suggests.
    anything under a 7 is a flop. So it flopped, but then I have no clue as to why people thought it'd be good either?!
    Yes it did.The only thing flop means is that GS scored it lower than it's members thought it would get.Nothing more, nothing less.
    Yes, player reviews don't count when it comes to ownage. We hype GS scores not user scores.
    I think your usage of the word ''flop'' is a little misguided, as well as your choice of the board in which to pose your inquiry.See, the thing is, this being System Wars, you can bet that the majority of the replies to this question will just be fanboys crying ''TEH FLOP DEAL WITH IT'' in unison. If you wanted to ask people who've played it if the game is ACTUALLY worth playing, then you should have avoided the use of the term ''flop'' at all costs.Now in my opinion, the game looks like it could be okay (Doesn't hurt that Level 5, one of my favorite devs, created it) and I'll be picking it up, but most likely not until it's price is around the $40-$50 mark. All in all if you wanna play it, play it. A flop only matters in this one small corner of the internet. It shouldn't affect your gaming purchase decisions.
    [QUOTE=''patriots7672'']anything under a 7 is a flop. So it flopped, but then I have no clue as to why people thought it'd be good either?![/QUOTE]



    That's actually not a flop.



    A flop is when a game is hyped to a certain level, and fails to meet that level at GS.



    Anything under 7 is a game that isn't really worth your money and time, and might as well be a flop.
    I remember it being hyped AAAA, that it was the best thing...well infact some people here say that about most sony games...so most games do flop as this game should, from all the hype it got...same with MAG
    Simple answer: Yes, it flopped

    Longer answer: Probably shouldn't come to System Wars regarding a game that didn't meet its hype and expect honest opinions. Most people you will get responses from haven't played it, but have seen the score and that is all they need to formulate their opinion. I would go to the actual WKC board and ask around there. Definitely have more helpful things to say
    I rly don't think it flopped cause the only really low scores it got was here and ign. People are kinda blowing it out of proportion though cause it got 2 bad scores, and basically the rest 8s, and they aren't really mentioning those reveiws.
    Flopped on Gamespot yeah. Flops =/= Bad games however. The general average seems to be higher than Gamespot's and IGN's reviews so it's not hard to imagine that people would still enjoy it.

    Wii loses an exclusive

    [url]http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1066814p1.html[/url]Thoughts?

    Fanboy Terminology

    Would someon care to explain where the names/classifications of Cows, lemmings or hermit comefrom?Fanboy Terminology
    It comes from immaturity and insecurity. Fanboy Terminology
    The dictionary.
    Ok letme rephrase that: Why are ps3 fanboys called cows, 360 fanboys lemmings and pc guys hermits?
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  • Mass Effect 2 better than Uncharted 2-IG ...

    Could be old, it's been doing the rounds: http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1064323p1.htmlIGN PS3 fanboy says Mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2.Mass Effect 2 better than Uncharted 2-IG ...
    opinions are like a**holesMass Effect 2 better than Uncharted 2-IG ...
    I agree.....Mass Effect 2 is just amazing game and better than U2.
    [QUOTE=''chikenfriedrice'']opinions are like a**holes[/QUOTE]everybody's got one
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    I'm not even close to down with Mass Effect 2 since I got it yesterday, but I might agree once I get further into the game, I'm glad IGN is bashing a PS3 exclusive.:P
    Greg Miller's opinion is duly noted. Anyone who needs to preface their opinion with ''Just remember, I said this...'' is just hoping to avoid the inevitable backlash.
    We've discussed this already. This is just IGN trying to get a rise out of fanboys.
    Uncharted 2 is still awesome.come on, who doesn't like a good treasure hunt?
    Oh no! Somebody call the cops! 琠?/p>
    For me, I agree, but its still just an opinion, ME and ME2 have more replay value and that is the kicker for me, a game that makes me want to play it over and over, but again, this is just my opinion.
    Sorry but this has been posted already. On topic; I don;t believe an opinion of a guy matters, even if the guy reviews games. I have seen games that have got bad reviews and I have liked them so why listen to those guys now?
    Looks like IGN wrote this article with System Wars in mind LMFAO! Why exactly they are comparing these two games is beyond me. They are REALLY different. But you do ''shoot'' stuff in both and take ''cover''...
    Trying to get some attention I see. You go IGN! :o
    This was already posted and had dozens of hate filled messages then. I expect the same from this thread. Although I agree with them this time, I would really rather prefer if they stopped making these articles. They never solve anything; just cause more problems
    [QUOTE=''IgorAntunov'']Could be old, it's been doing the rounds: http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1064323p1.htmlIGN PS3 fanboy says Mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2.[/QUOTE]

    Read the article, it seems IGN is ''trolling'' in a way to stir up the fanboys but read it. They say multiple times that the two games cant be compared
    [QUOTE=''chikenfriedrice'']opinions are like a**holes[/QUOTE]Thank you, my friend. It is a reality most will never come to. None of us have the authority to say what is truly better or worse. It comes down to preference
    These two have to be hands down my top games of this gen. But Mass Effect 2 wins in my books, but Mass Effect 2 may have been placed as my favorite game of all time. But that's not dissing Uncharted 2, I think if you have a 360 and PS3, these games are must haves!
    Already posted...infact, I'll gift you with a link to that very topic regarding the same article:http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27173772%26page=0
    [QUOTE=''Panosola'']I agree.....Mass Effect 2 is just amazing game and better than U2.[/QUOTE]



    I agree

    exclusive means...

    the game is only avaliable on that one specific system. not on ps2, ps3/ pc, 360/ wii, ds. exclusive means only on ONE system.EXCLUSIVEexclusive means...
    no **** sherlockexclusive means...
    Yeah but in the real world, no one cares about ''exclusives'' they just care about the games on their systems.
    Red Dead Redemption is exclusive to the PS3/360.

    IGN review : Dantes Inferno 7.5 !

    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1066286p2.htmlExpected more..IGN review : Dantes Inferno 7.5 !
    i didnt.IGN review : Dantes Inferno 7.5 !
    to be frank. I thought it was going to be pure garbage. 7 seems like its somewhat rentable or decent.
    thought it would be around that area. though in my tastes that's underrating.
    there's your gow clone. i could see the same score on quantum theory the gears clone. :P
    after playing the demo, i expected less .......... 7.5 is actually good.
    [QUOTE=''D-RS'']http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1066286p2.htmlExpected more..[/QUOTE]

    What's with IGN and their low scores these days?
    I didnt expect much from it.
    New action games become too much alike nowadays with games like God of War, Devil May Cry, and Ninja Gaiden.
    Bayonetta was partly a clone from the look of it, but atleast they did it right apparently.
    I've been playing it for some time now and it's a decent hack and slash.Though not anywhere near GOW, NG and Bayonettas standards. Certainly isn't going to touch GOW3 in any way.
    [QUOTE=''MetalGearSolidZ''][QUOTE=''D-RS'']http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1066286p2.htmlExpected more..[/QUOTE] What's with IGN and their low scores these days?[/QUOTE]Because its not MW2.
    [QUOTE=''SpinoRaptor24'']I've been playing it for some time now and it's a decent hack and slash.Though not anywhere near GOW, NG and Bayonettas standards. Certainly isn't going to touch GOW3 in any way.[/QUOTE]

    yeah doesn't look like it, makes it seem like the game never had a chance.
    ''derivative gameplay'', ''shallow combo system'', ''significantly flawed combat'', honestly I'm surprised it scored as high as it did.
    This is just about what I expected.
    Heh, didn't had high expectation for it in first place. Could be a decent rent.
    man, Im always in the minority, I enjoyed playing the demo
    [QUOTE=''johnlennon28'']man, Im always in the minority, I enjoyed playing the demo[/QUOTE]

    then go out and be all you can be. GO enjoy the game, save some chick from hell, mack some chick with a thousand jugs. Tell SW they have bad taste. *if you enjoy the game, who gives a crap if the majority hate it. Take care of thyself before you give a damn about the others* :)
    I thought it wouldn't be very good, but this is pretty cool.
    C'mon, 7.5 isn't low at all. For all the bad things everyone's been saying about this game it's a very decent score. May consider a rent.
    Still hoping for a 8.0 here at gs :P
    [QUOTE=''boxofwonder'']i didnt.[/QUOTE]

    seriously. It actually did better than I expected. I expected Sony to sue for plagiarism.

    fanboy hide

    360 fanboys hide behind pc/360 MULTIPLATS and ps3 fanboys hide behind EXCLUSIVES. what defines a systemis its exclusives what makes the gaming experience is the entire library. so both count. lets stop the hate.

    what is the best combo

    if you owned two systems which combo is the best in regards to library and features. and why do you feel this way.what is the best combo
    there's already a thread asking this same question.

    Bioshock Superbowl Commercial?

    Do you think there will be one?Bioshock Superbowl Commercial?
    noBioshock Superbowl Commercial?
    Maybe? There is going to be a dantes inferno commercial in the 4th quarter if i remeber correctly.
    The HALFTIME commercials is where it's at, guaranteed following.The problem is that they are SUPER, SUPER Expensive time slots. Most likely no Bio 2 will be in that slot. Any other time during the SuperBowl, even then I doubt it?I came to this thread thinking there would be links, I'm surprised it's just a random question with no links talking about Bio 2 at the Superbowl?Why the question?

    Bioshock is sure to make some decent money, but advertising has been pretty slim. I was wondering if maybe they were just gonna go big on a superbowl add, especially since they just released that unbelievably good trailer the other day. I'm an investor (mostly in video game companies since its what I know) and I'm thinking about buying up some take two interactive. Just trying to do my due dilligence and see if anyone knows anything.



    Happy gaming.
    I'd love to see a Bioshock 2 commercial during the superbowl, but at the price it takes for one I mean... its not like a mega hyped GTA/MW/Halo game or anything, so I don't see how they could really afford to unless they have see great sales in the future.
    They really should!Mass Effect2 getting a commercial during the Vikings and Saints game was fantastic. Such an amazing commercial and it was at a perfect time.. right before the overtime! Probably helped them sell alot of copies.
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']The HALFTIME commercials is where it's at, guaranteed following.The problem is that they are SUPER, SUPER Expensive time slots. Most likely no Bio 2 will be in that slot. Any other time during the SuperBowl, even then I doubt it?I came to this thread thinking there would be links, I'm surprised it's just a random question with no links talking about Bio 2 at the Superbowl?Why the question?
    [/QUOTE]me2
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  • would it be wise to play

    multiplats on Pc and exclusives on the consoles?My pc is decent to play most of the games at decent settings. I'd save up some money thanks to Steam, but I'd like to hear some opinions, like if it's really worth playing multiplats on Pc or not. maybe some of you guys who plays on both pc and consoles could enlighten me about it.would it be wise to play
    it depends, a game like MW2 is better on ps3/360 because of the better community for those games and b/c there are way better PC shooters out there. however if you were getting a valve, bioware, bethesda, or a game that runs on the unreal engine, you should get those games for the PC b/c of superior graphics, its smoother (due to higher fps cap), more content especially for bethesda games (tons of mods for Fo3, Oblivion and Morrowind), also mouse and keyboard support is awesomewould it be wise to play
    it really depends on the game on a case per case basis. what are you looking to play?
    Thats what I do, if its on PC, always get it on PC, there are alternate reasons to get it on consoles, like for online with friends who can only play the inferior console versions, but otherwise there is no point to not get it on PC if your PC can play it.
    If you have a high end PC then maybe, it depends. Achievements and trophies might keep some players sticking to consoles, while spllitscreen is also a major factor. I say PC is bets for its own exclusives and games that could have a vibrant modding community, as well as games like Bioshock (which is best on PC). It really depends on the game, MW2 seems hated by many PC gamers, and with the very fun splitscreen and somewhat smaller amount of glitching on consoles it wouldn't be the best choice.Battlefield: Bad Company 2 on the other hand, seems to be very PC oriented with more players, dedicated servers, and no splitscreen (from what I hear).So it really depends.
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    [QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']it really depends on the game on a case per case basis. what are you looking to play?[/QUOTE]



    batman, gta iv, mass effect 1
    [QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']it really depends on the game on a case per case basis. what are you looking to play?[/QUOTE] batman, gta iv, mass effect 1[/QUOTE]batman and mass effect on the pc. gta4 on your console.
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    [QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']it really depends on the game on a case per case basis. what are you looking to play?[/QUOTE] batman, gta iv, mass effect 1[/QUOTE]batman and mass effect on the pc. gta4 on your console.[/QUOTE]

    what about ghostbusters and dragon origins?
    dragon age definitely on pc, ghost busters idk
    [QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''] batman, gta iv, mass effect 1[/QUOTE]batman and mass effect on the pc. gta4 on your console.[/QUOTE] what about ghostbusters and dragon origins?[/QUOTE]definitely pc for dragon age. ghostbusters probably doesn't matter.
    [QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']batman and mass effect on the pc. gta4 on your console.[/QUOTE] what about ghostbusters and dragon origins?[/QUOTE]definitely pc for dragon age. ghostbusters probably doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]Ill have to add on to what Casey said here and say ghostbusters ONLY doesnt really matter if your looking for the 360 console version of the game, based on Lens of Truth the PS3 one is vastly inferior (same story with dragon age except in that case its the 360 version thats far inferior)
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    thanks!anyway I'm more of a single player gamer. I don't play online much, except for games like Fifa.
    [QUOTE=''dragonfly110''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''] what about ghostbusters and dragon origins?[/QUOTE]definitely pc for dragon age. ghostbusters probably doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]Ill have to add on to what Casey said here and say ghostbusters ONLY doesnt really matter if your looking for the 360 console version of the game, based on Lens of Truth the PS3 one is vastly inferior (same story with dragon age except in that case its the 360 version thats far inferior)[/QUOTE]



    yes I own an xbox 360
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    [QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner''][QUOTE=''Metroid_Other_M''] batman, gta iv, mass effect 1[/QUOTE]batman and mass effect on the pc. gta4 on your console.[/QUOTE] what about ghostbusters and dragon origins?[/QUOTE] Dragon Age Origins on PC.
    I generally agree with CaseyWagner, with the exception of GTA IV. If you want the episode DLC / Disk content for GTA IV right now, definitely play it on Xbox 360.If you want a user-selected/custom music station, and the ability to make your own videos, get it for the PC. Supposedly at least The Lost %26 Damned episode will also be released for PC and PS3 sometime soon.
    With all that said, I actually do prefer to play multi-plats on PC and almost exclusively-exclusive games on my 360 and PS3. There have been exceptions where I have GTA IV for 360 and PC. But you just can't get Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Forza Motorsport 2 or Ninja Gaiden II for PC.

    BattleField Bad Company 2 Rated M!

    yea thats all i knew it. i was kinda inevitble with all the f-bombs flying everywhere. so thoughts?BattleField Bad Company 2 Rated M!
    I'd always assumed it would be M. I actually forgot the first was T. Oh well, more gratuitous violence ftwBattleField Bad Company 2 Rated M!
    Thanks for the news. NOT!
    I think that's a good idea.
    Didn't see that coming.
    Umm...Thanks?
    [QUOTE=''taj7575'']Umm...Thanks?[/QUOTE] your welcome /sarcasim
    Seems like Bad Company is following the COD series. Started off being rated T then moved to be rated M.
    What?! I thought it was going to be rated E!!! :o :P
    Too bad the game doesn't have awesome gore.
    The first game teetered on M to begin with so I'm not surprised.
    [QUOTE=''Poison_1vy''][QUOTE=''taj7575'']Umm...Thanks?[/QUOTE] your welcome /sarcasim[/QUOTE]Well if you want me to say something..Lets hope this makes parents of 8 year olds think twice before buying it. But just like most other M games, and the fact that online multiplayer shooters are filled with them, they will probably ignore it.
    seems easier to make and sell M rated games now a days. Might as well go with it
    [QUOTE=''Poison_1vy'']yea thats all i knew it. i was kinda inevitble with all the f-bombs flying everywhere. so thoughts?[/QUOTE]

    Thanks so much! I was lost until you told me that. I spent countless hours searching it up. You are a great man!
    I dont think its M for the blood because there is really very little, but for the language.
    Can you turn off the cursing? I mean enough of the f-bombs.
    There didn't seem like enough blood, but you have to remember aside from the constant f bombs you hear online (and in the single player trailer some characters say a few, implying this might be in SP too), the game is much more serious than the first and you can see things like enemies dying and limping or slit throats by an ally. So it was pretty inevitable, and Dice doesn't seem to care or else they wouldn't have put it all in.
    Why does the rating matter? Anyone who wants will get it.
    Well with all the swearing it was bound to get an M.On a side note..HOLY CRAP I CANT WAIT FOR MARCH 2ND
    One thing missing from previous Battlefield games was swearing. I love it, at first I thought it was my teammates over voice chat, it's really realistic.

    What AAA game you liked the least this g ...

    For me Warioware.What AAA game you liked the least this g ...
    Sure okay but who could argue though Halo 3 comes in a very, very distant second don't ya think ? :twisted:What AAA game you liked the least this g ...
    I don't hate these games, not at all, but it's a tie between Assassin's Creed, Wario Ware: Smooth Moves and Perfect Dark Zero as my least favorite AAAs this gen. They seem A to me.
    Bayonetta
    Bioshock
    It's a tie between Assassin's Creed and Killzone 2,
    Mass Effect 2 :twisted:
    The original Assasin's Creed.
    [QUOTE=''comeonthehoops'']Bioshock[/QUOTE]



    And GeOW
    No More Heroes, Bioshock, and Assassin's Creed.
    ODST
    Gears
    Bioshock, just couldn't get immersed in it
    Halo 3,GeoW 1 and specially 2, and Bayonetta.
    Assassin's Creed 1.
    Assassin's Creed. What a boring game. =/
    assassins creed
    These are all quality games in their own right, but to me, they didn't do anything too much :
    1. Perfect Dark Zero
    2. Assassin's Creed
    3. WarioWare
    4. Halo ODST
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    There's probably a few more, but I can't think of them now.

    [QUOTE=''felipebo'']The original Assasin's Creed.[/QUOTE]



    Same here, friend.
    Resistance 2 is probably my least favourite AAA this gen.

    super street fighter 4, dudley?

    anyone got a confirm on dudley in super street fighter 4, and are they going to do console specific characters like Soul calibur 4?super street fighter 4, dudley?
    Yeah, I saw a screenshot of him earlier this week in a thread here, he's in it and in the pic he fought Barlog. I want Ibuki back more though.super street fighter 4, dudley?
    [QUOTE=''mitu123'']Yeah, I saw a screenshot of him earlier this week in a thread here, he's in it and in the pic he fought Barlog. I want Ibuki back more though.[/QUOTE]



    Screw that, cheating ninjas do not fight like gentleman. If Dudley is in SSF4 for sure, I'm going from probably not buying, to pre-ordering. :o
    [QUOTE=''mitu123'']Yeah, I saw a screenshot of him earlier this week in a thread here, he's in it and in the pic he fought Barlog. I want Ibuki back more though.[/QUOTE]

    That pic is fake. Look at the revenge meter and it's from sf4 not ssf4. The last cast of chars are still unannounced
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  • The Demon's Souls Valentine's Day Specia ...

    Sorry if old.Found it from AtlusYou can vote below, then spend your Valentine's Day with the winning tendency and the lovely Maiden In Black in just over a week. It's going to be so romantic!Demon's Souls Valentine's Tendency EventWhich world of tendency you will choose??The Demon's Souls Valentine's Day Specia ...
    Black! White is easy, kill yourself in nexus when you have body, black is a much bigger pain in the ***.OMG! It used to be dominated by Black... White is 99% useless, with Black you can get all those colorless demons souls and stuff really easily..The Demon's Souls Valentine's Day Specia ...
    ya know what sucks is last night my sister's dog chewed up my one and only dualshock 3
    [QUOTE=''88mphSlayer'']ya know what sucks is last night my sister's dog chewed up my one and only dualshock 3[/QUOTE]

    no kidding?
    [QUOTE=''88mphSlayer'']ya know what sucks is last night my sister's dog chewed up my one and only dualshock 3[/QUOTE]

    ''I'm sorry sis but the dog's had to go away to a farm'' *Loads shotgun*
    I already voted for Black yesterday, since I missed the Halloween event. Glad to see Black is still winning.
    Whats the diffrence between White and Black? do you get to kill monsters easily when its white?? i remember them doing that before but didnt really try it.. even tho im busy with White Knight Chrnicles at the moment i'll probably get on Demon Souls if the monsters become a little easier :P
    [QUOTE=''88mphSlayer'']ya know what sucks is last night my sister's dog chewed up my one and only dualshock 3[/QUOTE]He got upset because you would not let him play, huh?:P
    Voted black because its far harder to get a black tendency than a white one. Plus all the special black phantoms are unlocked on black tendency and they give you cool items.
    Go black world tendency! :twisted:



    Bring on the loot and the challenge! I want it all! :twisted:
    I voted for white tendency because I have yet to get all the WT loot in all of the worlds.
    [QUOTE=''finalstar2007'']Whats the diffrence between White and Black? do you get to kill monsters easily when its white?? i remember them doing that before but didnt really try it.. even tho im busy with White Knight Chrnicles at the moment i'll probably get on Demon Souls if the monsters become a little easier :P[/QUOTE] White makes the monsters easier with less rewards, black makes the monsters harder and with more rewards. Both tendencies (when they are at their purest) unlock special events in levels.
    Go black or don't go at all. =3



    White tendency is far too easy for my tastes.
    [QUOTE=''BZSIN'']I already voted for Black yesterday, since I missed the Halloween event. Glad to see Black is still winning.[/QUOTE]



    Took the words right from my mouth. Black WT >> White WT, more of a challenge + more souls (I think twice more souls). The Crystal lizards also gives better drops. Beside if they lock the WT at white no one will be able to farm for souls from 4-3 online, not that important but it would bother me.
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  • Wednesday, April 14, 2010

    Why are 360 owners hiding behind Mass Ef ...

    I don't need a 360 to play it. Its out on the PC and better in fact on that platform. I'm seeing alot of ME2 vs Uncharted 2 or really any recent PS3 game. ME2 is not exclusive as I don't have a 360 and still can play ME2, not to mention UC2 and Demons souls. I forsee the same thing will happen with Splinter Cell.Why are 360 owners hiding behind Mass Ef ...
    [QUOTE=''bobaban'']I don't need a 360 to play it. Its out on the PC and better in fact on that platform. I'm seeing alot of ME2 vs Uncharted 2 or really any recent PS3 game. ME2 is not exclusive as I don't have a 360 and still can play ME2, not to mention UC2 and Demons souls. I forsee the same thing will happen with Splinter Cell.[/QUOTE]Your a genious bro PC\PS3 > 360 wow who would have thought :?Why are 360 owners hiding behind Mass Ef ...
    Its really cuz its all Lems got until like Splinter Cell or something.EDIT: NVM, that's multiplat too, I guess its Alan Wake then lol
    Out of curiosity TC, will you be planning on playing ME2 or are you just using the game as fodder for an argument?
    Because lems have no exclusives so they cling to any multiplat coming their way.
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    They've nothing else to hide behind.
    And why do Cows hide behind the PC
    Because lems are setting themselves up for Damage Control once Me2 hits ps3 after timed exclusivity is up, j/k. Mass Effect 2 is a great game and a huge improvement over the original. I just started it today after beating Me1 two days ago and I can already tell that ME2 is an amazing game b/c it fixes the problems of ME1, which was also a top notch game
    [QUOTE=''bobaban'']I don't need a 360 to play it. Its out on the PC and better in fact on that platform. I'm seeing alot of ME2 vs Uncharted 2 or really any recent PS3 game. ME2 is not exclusive as I don't have a 360 and still can play ME2, not to mention UC2 and Demons souls. I forsee the same thing will happen with Splinter Cell.[/QUOTE]



    So now you can't compare multiplat games to exclusives? kthxbi.
    Sorry ME2 vs PS3 games is valid as most PS3 owners do not also have a gaming comp that could run ME2. Its all about 360 vs PS3.
    its one of the best games this gen if it was PS3/PC it would be the samething
    PC gaming is dead but thats my opinion i look at all 360/PC games as console exclusive. Gamespot does and so do i.
    I havent noticed that many lems hiding behind. There are a few that dont understand that its multiplat, but for the most part all i see about mass effect 2 is how awesome of a game it is, and that is just fair talk.
    [QUOTE=''bobaban'']I don't need a 360 to play it. Its out on the PC and better in fact on that platform. I'm seeing alot of ME2 vs Uncharted 2 or really any recent PS3 game. ME2 is not exclusive as I don't have a 360 and still can play ME2, not to mention UC2 and Demons souls. I forsee the same thing will happen with Splinter Cell.[/QUOTE]so your a PS3 owner hiding behind a PC?Heard that argument before.is this a PC and PS3 vs Xbox360 now?Please, I have a more then a capable PC and can play better versions of multiplats on itbut it doesn't stop games selling on the Xbox360.how about MW2? why would people get the PS3 version when the PCversion is markedly superior?nice try singlingout the Xbox360.Why are Cows hinding behind the PC?
    [QUOTE=''bobaban'']I don't need a 360 to play it. Its out on the PC and better in fact on that platform. I'm seeing alot of ME2 vs Uncharted 2 or really any recent PS3 game. ME2 is not exclusive as I don't have a 360 and still can play ME2, not to mention UC2 and Demons souls. I forsee the same thing will happen with Splinter Cell.[/QUOTE]



    Mass Effect Graphics > Uncharted 2 Graphics



    Mass Effect 2 ships 2 million in first week > Uncharted 2



    Thread where I've seen cows hide behind Mass Effect being mutiplat > threads Lems acting as if it were exclusive.
    Yeah those 360 owners, go play your crappy nerdy Mass Effect 2, I'll play WKC and MAG thank you very much. HA HA HA you guy's jealous, wish you could play these awesome exclusives, Yeah right go play your stupid mulitphat, Fools
    So in order for PS3 to be superior to 360 you need an up to date gaming PC. Really? Really?
    [QUOTE=''SpideR_CentS'']Sorry ME2 vs PS3 games is valid as most PS3 owners do not also have a gaming comp that could run ME2. Its all about 360 vs PS3.[/QUOTE] Its all about 360 vs PS3? I thought this was system wars?
    I hope I don't see you in those ''OMG ME2 COMING TO PS3!'' threads that get posted everyday.

    Are there any console gamers who use a k ...

    I'm just wondering if anyone has ever set that up. I think that would feel a bit awkward, personally. Does Resistance 2 support keyboard and mouse controls?Are there any console gamers who use a k ...
    from what I heard, very few console FPS's even support KB/M...Are there any console gamers who use a k ...
    I think only Unreal Tournament PS3 supports KB/M
    You can get that Splitfish Frag FX or somthing o' rather, that adds mouse controls to your PS3.The COD4 PS3 leaderboards is dominated by someone who uses it.
    Not me, but it's gotten to the point that the only place I will play a FPS is on the pc and the wii now. I just can't do dual analog anymore.
    [QUOTE=''skrat_01''] You can get that Splitfish Frag FX or somthing o' rather, that adds mouse controls to your PS3.The COD4 PS3 leaderboards is dominated by someone who uses it. [/QUOTE]You could do so much better with that implemented. If I played my friends over XBox Live (if I actually got a 360) and they saw my mad Mouse and Keyboard skills, they'd think I was amazing without realizing that I'm not using a controller. But when we play split-screen, they'd wonder why I suck so much.You could dominate all the console players.
    [QUOTE=''skrat_01'']You can get that Splitfish Frag FX or somthing o' rather, that adds mouse controls to your PS3.The COD4 PS3 leaderboards is dominated by someone who uses it. [/QUOTE] yup it took the guy 12 hrs (or sumthing) of continous playing to climb the leader boards using a M%26KB
    I've been thinking about getting a system, but this issue has been holding me back. I'm glad to see it's being discussed. It's been awhile since this thread has been active. Has PlayStation or Xbox made advances toward implementing a keyboard or mouse for their consoles?
    [QUOTE=''goblaa'']Not me, but it's gotten to the point that the only place I will play a FPS is on the pc and the wii now. I just can't do dual analog anymore.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling, I've NEVER been able to do dual analog for an FPS, I just end up wanting to throw the controller against a wall.
    if consoles fully supported mouse and keyboard for fps i would defiantly buy one in a second just so i could go and own the console noobs with there dual analogs. Aim assist won't save you from DJ_Headshots wrath :D
    Nope. I looked at the SplitFish, but ended up ruling it out for a few reasons:
    1. The new versions don't have the mousepad with the handle on it for use on the couch, and I'm not going to set up a table just to use a mouse.
    2. Almost no PS3 games natively support it, and hacking up some faked analog input sounds pretty awful to me.
    3. In the end, a controller isn't as precise as a mouse, but the difference just doesn't feel big enough to justify ****ing with a mouse.
    That said, I'm waiting for someone to perfect the FPS gamepad - left side has an analog and D-pad, right side has A/B/X/Y buttons and a decent-size trackball, like the old Logitech Marble. Couple that with true native support (as mandated by the platform vendor) and you'd have a great console FPS controller.
    there are many adapters which can be used. But nobody uses them.
    [QUOTE=''13C'']there are many adapters which can be used. But nobody uses them.[/QUOTE]

    yeah but they don't offer true 1:1 mouse movement just emulate the analog movements onto the mouse. And not to mention there will be mouse acceleration in every game.
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  • Sheep say 2010 is the year of the Wii. 3 ...

    For those boasting this year to be radically different than 2009 for the Wii, the start of this year isn't exactly working in the Wii's favour entirely. The 360 already has Bayonetta and ME2, both of which are AAA. And in a few days,I anticipate another AAA for Bioshock. If so, that's 3 AAAs in the first quarter of 2010, two of which for the ps3 as well. Quite a good start for both the 360 and ps3 this year. What has Wii given us so far?

    And i expect sheep to scuttle behind Mario Galaxy 2 and their new Zelda game, both of which don't even have confirmed released dates yet.Sheep say 2010 is the year of the Wii. 3 ...
    And cows say 2010 will be the year of the PS3. :|What exactly is your point? :|PS: PS3 hasn't had a AAA all year. Why is it that PS3/360 fanboys always argue exclusives but when the Wii is included, it's all ''total library'' nonsense?Sheep say 2010 is the year of the Wii. 3 ...
    Aw darn we can't use exclusive titles. Oh well :(
    2 AAe vs 2 AAA. I guess it's kinda even considering you can play the Xbox games on other systems. :P
    The promise of a new SMG, a new Zelda and a new Metroid makes them think they have the year on the bag.
    [QUOTE=''Silverbond'']And cows say 2010 will be the year of the PS3. :|What exactly is your point? :|PS: PS3 hasn't had a AAA all year. Why is it that PS3/360 fanboys always argue exclusives but when the Wii is included, it's all ''total library'' nonsense?[/QUOTE]Because ps3 and 360 share many games, so exclusives distinguish one from another. As for the Wii, which decided to take on a different route, it's basically the Wii vs 'Rest of the Industry'
    there are other games besides those two. Metroid Other M topped Gametrailers list of most anticipated games for 2010, and if Zelda was confirmed 2010 then Zelda would be #1. Aonuma said that he is pushing for a 2010 release for Zelda wii, and then there's pikmin 3, which is the kind of game that might surprise us with an early release like galaxy 2 did. Also what about solid titles like NMH2, Red Steel 2, and the Grinder?
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    Wow, 2010 just flew by... I can't believe it's been a year already... Oh, wait...:
    |[QUOTE=''Silverbond''][QUOTE=''jhcho2''][QUOTE=''Silverbond'']And cows say 2010 will be the year of the PS3. :|What exactly is your point? :|PS: PS3 hasn't had a AAA all year. Why is it that PS3/360 fanboys always argue exclusives but when the Wii is included, it's all ''total library'' nonsense?[/QUOTE]Because ps3 and 360 share many games, so exclusives distinguish one from another. As for the Wii, which decided to take on a different route, it's basically the Wii vs 'Rest of the Industry'[/QUOTE]And that stance is entirely fair AND logical.[/QUOTE] it definitely seems that way to me. PC, 360 and PS3 seem to be in a dance for games and exclusives and stealing exclusives from each other while the wii is doing it's own thing by itself
    Honestly, I think people make way too much of this whole AAA and ''exclusive'' garbage thing. Most of my favorite games are neither ''AAA'' or exclusive. Seriously limiting youself.
    [QUOTE=''GunSmith1_basic'']it definitely seems that way to me. PC, 360 and PS3 seem to be in a dance for games and exclusives and stealing exclusives from each other while the wii is doing it's own thing by itself[/QUOTE]It speaks volumes when people admit to using two or three systems to beat one.
    Its just been 1 month of 2010. There are more days to the year.
    [QUOTE=''jhcho2''][QUOTE=''Silverbond'']And cows say 2010 will be the year of the PS3. :|What exactly is your point? :|PS: PS3 hasn't had a AAA all year. Why is it that PS3/360 fanboys always argue exclusives but when the Wii is included, it's all ''total library'' nonsense?[/QUOTE]Because ps3 and 360 share many games, so exclusives distinguish one from another. As for the Wii, which decided to take on a different route, it's basically the Wii vs 'Rest of the Industry'[/QUOTE]



    I don't understand why people can't seem to grasp this concept. It's common sense, but it's obvious this place is devoid of that.
    thats stupid how cant the ppl use exclusives for the wii the wii gets nothing but exclusives...and every sheep,leming,cow w.e sed its the yr of their system wats ur point??

    Is Alan Wake being cancelled by stealth?

    Or delayed?
    Here is the link http://www.videogamer.com/news/remedy_pre-release_alan_wake_demo_unlikely.html
    No pre-release demo? What are they afraid of? that people might not like the graphics or the gameplay? Does not look good for an anticipated AAA or even AAAA.Is Alan Wake being cancelled by stealth?
    AAAA, are you kidding?Is Alan Wake being cancelled by stealth?
    where did the cancel/delayed part come from??
    or they feel like the demo will give a poor representation of the product. I hate demos, just get the game out. that and REMEDY FTW...so i still believe :)
    [QUOTE=''DarkStraberry'']Or delayed?
    Here is the link http://www.videogamer.com/news/remedy_pre-release_alan_wake_demo_unlikely.html
    No pre-release demo? What are they afraid of? that people might not like the graphics or the gameplay? Does not look good for an anticipated AAA or even AAAA.[/QUOTE] no demo=/= problem with game's development
    very misleading title. The site only talks about '' Cancelled Pre-release Alan Wake demo''
    Nothing can REMEDY these constant delays :P
    Did GTA IV have a demo? :P
    what is a AAAA title?also lots of games never got demos, MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, GTA4, ME2, MW2 are among a few that didn't get pre-release demos
    [QUOTE=''88mphSlayer'']what is a AAAA title?also lots of games never got demos, MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, GTA4, ME2, MW2 are among a few that didn't get pre-release demos[/QUOTE]It's a game that gets a 10 score! like GTA 4 and MGS 4 both got a 10 score.
    Countless games go without a demo before launch, many add a demo after but a lot don't at all. I don't follow your train of thought at all.
    it looks to me that a Demo is not ready.
    Or perhaps they don't want any of the story ruined at all since they've had that under tight wraps for a long time now....
    Why do you need a demo of a single player story oriented game? ...
    If what devs say about this game is accurate, a demo would be a very poor demostration of the final game.
    [QUOTE=''DarkStraberry'']Or delayed?
    Here is the link http://www.videogamer.com/news/remedy_pre-release_alan_wake_demo_unlikely.html
    No pre-release demo? What are they afraid of? that people might not like the graphics or the gameplay? Does not look good for an anticipated AAA or even AAAA.[/QUOTE] Well it was announced at E3 2005 so I hope it's not delayed again
    [QUOTE=''DarkStraberry'']Or delayed?




    Here is the link

    http://www.videogamer.com/news/remedy_pre-release_alan_wake_demo_unlikely.html




    No pre-release demo? What are they afraid of? that people might not like the graphics or the gameplay? Does not look good for an anticipated AAA or even AAAA.[/QUOTE]

    No demo=/= prove development problem

    Loads of games didn't get demos like MGS4, GTA IV, GeOW 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST, Fable II, LBP and they all scored great.
    Or perhaps they don't want any of the story ruined at all since they've had that under tight wraps for a long time now....

    The FINAL FANTASY XIII MEGA HYPE THREAD

    Welcome to Final Fantasy XIII Hype Thread, the must-read resource on Square Enix's ravenously anticipated RPG. In this thread will be posted every single bit of info, news, reviews, previews, everything related with Final Fantasy XIII.First, if your new to Final Fantasy you might wanna check this very well done article about:[url=http://retro.ign.com/articles/998/998839p1.html] HISTORY OF FINAL FANTASY[/url]

    Know the legacy of the greatest RPG franchise in videogames.

    by Travis FahsFinal Fantasyis the longest swan song of all time. It was never meant to last, but now, more than two decades later, it remains the most recognizable name in role-playing games. More of an idea than a true series, it has evolved into something that a youngHironobu Sakaguchiwould never recognize and almost single-handedly turned a small, struggling company into an international powerhouse. In the twenty years since it first arrived on Japanese Famicom systems, it's never once relied on nostalgia or conceded to rest on its laurels. Every new game has continued to press forward, and that's precisely what makes it one of the most interesting stories in game history...In this section i will post any new info, interviews, previews, reviews, whats new in the thread, and if you have imported the japanese version of Final Fantasy XIII and want to give us short summary with the pros and cos of the game, i will also post it in this area. Your opinion on the game also mattersFinal Fantasy XIII NEWSThread UpdatesPreviewsReviews ( Only Metacritic/Gamerankings reviews go here) and ReceptionNow back to FFXIII. First the story and characters, don't worry: everything that i write has been shared by Square Enix itself and shown in the trailers, so there shouldn't be any material that will spoil the story for you (of course, if you do want your experience to be totally fresh, skip the the plot and characters section).

    PLOT

    Final Fantasy XIII has six primary playable characters. Each primary character is a l'Cie, chosen by a fal'Cie for some task, and has the marking or tattoo somewhere on their body to show for it. They're each paired with an Eidolon -- a connection that plays a part in the story.Lightning( codename )''This solitary young woman speaks little of herself -- even her true name is a mystery. She is known to others simply as 'Lightning.' ''

    Lightning was the first character introduced for Final Fantasy XIII and, if there has to be a ''main'' character for the game, she'd probably qualify (she is on the box, after all). She's formerly a member of a security force in Boudam, operating under the Cocoon government.

    Her last name is Farron, but Lightning is not her real first name. When she was young, her parents passed away. Wanting to become strong and care for Serah, her younger sister, she decided to rid herself of the name given to her by her parents.

    Lightning's Eidolon is Odin, who transforms into a horse. Her default weapon is ''Blaze Edge,'' a prototype army weapon that combines a gun and a sword.
    Snow Villiers''An irrepressible, fiery young man, Snow dives headfirst into danger using nothing but his powerful physique as a weapon. Easily swayed by emotion, he is prone to rash words and actions. Nonetheless, many are won over by his outgoing and optimistic nature.''

    Snow was first introduced to Final Fantasy XIII through a trailer in which he appeared in the scene on a motorcycle. He's head of a group of ragtag rebels called Nora. He's also engaged to Serah, having proposed to her even after learning that she was chosen to be a l'Cie.

    Snow's Eidolon is Shiva, a pairing of two sisters Nix and Stella, who merge into a motorcycle form. He fights with direct punches and kicks, although his weapon is actually his coat, which assumes various patterns depending on the current effect. By default, the coat is in ''Wild Bear'' form.Oerba Dia VanilleVanille is an endearing young woman with a relentlessly sunny disposition. Her bright personality gives no hint of the dark resolve that lies within.''

    Vanille appeared in XIII trailers long before we knew her name, shown looking out upon the world of Pulse (her pigtails made people refer to her as ''pigtail girl'' for some time). She appears to be close to Hope, whom, as depicted in the Advent Children demo, she meets in Hanged Edge. Like Hope, she was selected by the Cocoon government to be purged to Pulse.

    Vanille's Eidolon, the last one revealed for the game, is Hecatoncheir, who transforms into a mech. Her default weapon is the ''Bind Rod,'' an original Final Fantasy XIII creation that attacks enemies with wires and hooksSazh Katzroy''Sazh is a friendly, cheerful man who is never without his curious companions -- a Chocobo chick and a pair of pistols. He is quick to banter, but also keeps a mature perspective on matters. Uncontrollable events have set him on his current path, but another purpose compels him to walk it.''
    Sazh is a private pilot who ends up moving alongside Lightning following Boudam's purge. He has a son, Dahj, whom he raised alone following the death of Dadjh's mom. The Chocobo chick was a present from Sazh to Dahj when the two were visiting a resort colony.

    Sazh's summon is newcomer Brynhildr, who transforms into a hotrod-like vehicle. As his weapon, he makes use of guns which he holds in holsters attached to both legs. His initial weapon is Vega, a pair of guns that can be combined into a rifle.Hope Estheim''Hope has enjoyed a markedly uneventful youth on humankind's haven of Cocoon. His life is turned upside down at the hands of the Sanctum's Purge.''
    14-year-old Hope and his mom were visiting Boudam when the purge took place. As depicted in the Advent Children demo, Snow was unable to keep Hope's mom safe after she volunteered to assist Nora in their rebellion. As a result, Hope resents Snow.

    Hope has the biggest summon of them all, the massive Alexander.

    His weapon is a boomerang, initially the Air Wing. Boomerangs are apparently a big thing now in Cocoon extreme sports (we're not sure if this means there'll be a boomerang mini-game or not). Hope's pockets also have a bit of technology in them. They serve as a transport mechanism, which carries the boomerang when he enters battle.Oerba Yun Fang''Fang is a mysterious woman who is working with the Sanctum military, despite bearing the mark of the detested l'Cie. She has a strong-minded personality and is unconcerned with trivialities.''

    Fang was the last major character introduced for Final Fantasy XIII. It's unknown why she supports Cocoon despite bearing the l'Cie mark.

    Fang's summon is Bahamut, who transforms between bipedal and flying dragon forms. Her default weapon is the Blade Lance, a dual-bladed lance.
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    The battle system, called Command Synergy Battle in game, has been described as ''More tactical thanFinal Fantasy X, faster thanX-2, and almost as seamless asXII.'' The enemies are visible in the field. When the player runs into them with the playable characters, the screen lights up and the scene switches to a vast, blank battlefield, marking the start of a battle. In the battle, the player can control only one character out of a party of up to three, but after some point in the game that character can be switched. The progression in the game will be chapter-based. In each chapter, you'll see the story through the view of different characters.There are 3 important systems in working in conjution in Final Fantasy XIII battle system: ATB system, Break system and Paradigm Shift.ATB- TheActive Time Battlebar returns in the battle system, but this time it is divided into sections (6 is the maximum number of sections). Each command available to the battle party has a numeric value referred to as ''ATB Cost'' next to the name indicating how many of these sections it will take up. This allows the player to input several commands per turn. The next turn comes up sooner if the ATB bar is only partially used.Because of the ''ATB Cost'' points, there is no MP in the game. Also, since magic cannot be used outside of battle, the party's HP is completely restored after every battle. At Gamescom 2009, it was revealed that there are no Limit Breaks because of the unique summoning powers, and that there is no way to escape from battles once they're initiated. There are items that can be used to avoid battles, though, and each enemy is marked by its difficulty level with a symbol in the field as the player approaches them. If a battle ends in defeat, the player has the option to either try it again or return to the previous save point.Save points in this game allow the player not only to save, but access a shop in which items can be bought or sold.Break- A new element called theBreakbar is added to the battle, as well. It is specific to each enemy, and it depletes as the player performs attack combos marked by a percentage. If the combos continue, ''Break Mode'' is entered, where even more damage can be done. Enemies in this mode can be launched in the air and juggled with attacks. When a battle is won, a victory screen pops up, giving the player a one-to-five stars ranking on how they did in the battle, as well as showing how long the battle took and the number of chain and break attacks. This information is linked to the Trophy and Achievement systems of PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, respectively.Paradigm Shift- In the battle system of the game, the player can only control one character at a time. The other party members' actions can, however, be affected by a system called the ''Paradigm Shift'' (''Optima Change'' in the Japanese version).Paradigms are described as ''stances'' or ''****s'' that the characters temporarily take during battles to define the abilities they use. However, they are more strict than job ****s; for example, the character with a Medic role equipped can do nothing but heal, while the Commando role forces the character to only attack with physical and magical strikes.The paradigms can be changed at any time to suit the situation at hand. However, they cannot be changed individually to each character, only for the whole party at a time. Thus, a paradigm is a combination of three roles.The roles within the paradigms are:Commando (COM):Build attack chains more easily with enhanced strength.Ravanger(RAV): Charge enemy chain gauges with concentrated attacks.Sentinel(SEN): Shield allies from enemy attacks with enhanced defenseSynergist (SYN) :Support allies with an array of magical enhancements.Medic(MED): Use healing actions on yourself and allies.Saboteur(SAB): Inflict status ailments on the enemy.Gameplay SystemsThe main customization systems inFinal Fantasy XIIIare known as ''Crystarium'' and ''Equipment Reform'' Square Enixhas also filled out the game with such side offerings as monster hunting quests and Chocobo treasure hunts.

    Crystarium System
    Final Fantasy XIII is missing one of the key concepts of other RPGs: levels. Your characters don't level-up following battle.

    Instead, you use the Crystarium System to build up your characters in certain roles. Crystal Points (CP) that you've earned in battle can be used to move your character through a tree-like chart, unlocking new skills and parameter modifiers along the way.
    While your characters don't directly have ''levels,'' there is the concept of a ''level'' included in the game. Your roles have levels. Once you've reached a central point in a role's Crystarium chart, the role will level up and you'll be given a higher level chart.

    Your characters also have a ''level'' of sorts defined through their overall Cyrstarium level. This level is tied into the story and serves as a cap on the maximum level that your roles can reach.

    Equipment Reform
    This system lets you make weapon upgrades and modifications by ''feeding'' your items with special materials that you acquire while on your quest. As you add materials to weapons, the weapons gain experience, eventually reaching a maximum level and evolving into a new form.

    The game includes over 100 materials. These can be found in treasure chests, earned by defeating enemies, purchased, and acquired on missions (see below).

    The materials have different effects depending on type. Some simply increase the weapon's experience value. Others interact with subsequently applied materials. For instance, one item adds a 1.25 experience multiplier to the next added material. It's a good idea to use this with a material that adds a large amount of experience to the weapon.

    Using the Equipment Reform system, it's possible to build up your very first weapon throughout the course of the game and use it to defeat the final boss.

    Mission SystemThe l'Cie turn to zombie-like Cie Corpses when they fail to fulfill their focus. Eventually, they turn into obelisks which are found here and there in the Pulse overworld and serve the noble task of feeding players with optional side missions.

    Final Fantasy XIII's mission system involves finding and defeating particular monsters, some of whom are said to be tougher than the final boss. By clearing missions, you'll get materials which can be used in the item reform system. Some materials will be accessible exclusively through this system.

    The missions also have a ranking dynamic. You earn ranks as you clear missions.

    Mission Mode does partially fit into the game's story. The mission briefing screen includes a profile detailing the obelisk's memories of its time as a l'Cie. The mission that you're performing is actually the Focus of the obelisk's l'Cie form.

    The obelisks are the final form for the l'Cie. They're stuck like that forever, although on a positive note, this means that you can take on missions over and over again if you like.Trophies and Achievements
    Final Fantasy XIII embraces that modern gaming concept of the Trophy (or Achievements, if you're playing on Xbox 360). For the most part, you'll get Bronze Trophies as you work through the story. Gold Trophies will require a bit of effort. Some Trophies will give you actual prizes, including XMB themes.
    Chocobo Treasure HuntsIn XIII, you'll find two types of Chocobos. The familiar cute type can be found in Cocoon, in an amusement area known as Nautilus Park. In Pulse, you'll find wild Chocobos. These are large enough to ride and sure enough that's just what you'll do.

    You can use the Pulse Chocobos to race across the vast expanses of the Pulse world. You'll need to take care when driving, through, as the Chocobos incur damage when struck by an enemy and will flee when its life bar (just a bunch of feathers) reaches zero.

    Chocobos have the ability to scan for treasure. They're also excellent diggers. This will apparently result in some sort of treasure hunting system.

    As for the other type of Chocobo, it's unclear at this point if they do anything expect look cute. Incidentally, the baby Chocobo that Sazh carries around with him is of the Cocoon variety.''The summoned. The salvation of the ill-fated l'Cie.''Summonsreturn in this game asEidolons, linked with the powers of the l'Cie. Playable Eidolons includeShiva Sisters,Odin,Bahamut,Alexander, and two new summonsBrynhildrandHecatoncheir, whileIfrit,CarbuncleandSirenappear inFinal Fantasy XIIIbut are not playable. All Eidolons have been given futuristic designs and the power to change their shape. The Eidolons are used both as a gameplay feature and as plot devices in cutscenes. Each character has only one Eidolon, and Eidolons replace the other party members besides the summoner when called.Eidolons are summoned by the use of ''Tactical Points'' (TP), which is won after battles. Also, instead of HP, Eidolons use ''Summon Points'' (SP) to indicate their health, but SP also slowly decreases over time. Inital SP depends on the TP level used to summon the Eidolon. Once SP is completely depleted, the Eidolon will disappear, and the other party members will return. Additionally, each l'Cie must win the ''approval'' of their respective Eidolon by defeating them in combat.In addition to summoning Eidolons to fight alongside them, each Eidolon can transform into another form that combines them with the summoner. This takes place in a mode called ''Gestalt Mode'' (''Driving Mode'' in the Japanese version), where combat becomes more action-oriented, with the summon being able to perform various special attacks with certain button combinations. Each Eidolon's Gestalt Mode also includes a powerful finisher move that will end the summoning after being used. How often and for how long the player can activate this ability is again determined by TP.ODINOdin is the Eidolon residing inLightning'srose-shaped crystal, meaning he cannot be summoned by anyone else.He appears as a gigantic horned knight wearing a white cape and wielding a large double-sided sword with an ''S'' shape in one hand, with a massive shield on his opposite arm.Lightning andHopewill first face him as a boss, as a test to prove Lightning's strength to him. In hisGestalt Mode, Odin transforms into the horse Sleipnir for Lightning to ride on and she uses his detachable swords as weapons. His attacks seem to be aligned with the elements ofLightningandWind. SHIVA SISTERSInFinal Fantasy XIII, apparently using other elemental attacks,Snow Villiers's Eidolonis the Shiva Sisters. They are composed ofStyria, the dark-skinned elder sister with a light patch around her right eye, and younger, lighter-skinnedNix, who has a dark patch around one eye. These two sisters combine into a motorcycle in theirGestalt Modewhich Snow rides on.HECATONCHEIRHecatoncheirisOerba Dia Vanille'sEidolon. It is anEarth-elementalcreature with multiple arms. During its Gestalt Mode it transforms into a war machine with gun turrets that Vanille rides. The summon's gameplay concept is Shooting Blaster, and its Gestalt Mode is intended to be a ranged attacker with attacks which place a strong emphasis on the positions of the enemies in the battle. Its super move isGaian Salvo. BRYNHILDRBrynhildrisSazh Katzroy's Eidolon inFinal Fantasy XIII. She is aFire-elemental knight who wields a large weapon reminiscent of both a mace and a pickax. This weapon has also been shown to fire projectiles like a gun.During her Gestalt Mode she transforms into a sports car. Her super move is calledM鷖pell Flame.ALEXANDERAlexander makes a return in the form of a playable summon as theEidolon of Hope Estheim. In this game, Alexander takes on a far more human appearance than in other games, possessing visible hands for the first time. He uses his powerful fists to strike enemies, but is also capable of long range attacks. In his Gestalt Mode, Alexander becomes a fortress surrounding the battlefield while Hope stays on him, giving him orders. He fires beams of holy light from his cannons. According toMotomu Toriyama, Alexander is a ''tactical commander.''BAHAMUTBahamut is present inFinal Fantasy XIIIasOerba Yun Fang'sEidolon. He is summoned by Fang from a crystal shard. He then dives from the sky in his Gestalt form before landing and returning to his original form. His regular attack in his normal form resembles a less powerful version of Mega Flare. His Gestalt Mode sees him transform into a flying mechanical dragon, which Fang can ride. His attacks then involve quick dives, lasers and explosion, culminating in a very powerful Mega Flare.Thread aint done yet, im busy right now, ill update it later.The FINAL FANTASY XIII MEGA HYPE THREAD
    Hmm... GS lets you put more than one line of text beside an image?
    I thought ''hakanakumono'' already made one...
    9.0...
    I like the thread by hakanakumono better
    9.0, AAA
    I think it'll get 9.0 here, it'll be good, but like ff12, will have some things wrong with it.
    Hakanakumono has already made a quite frankly better hype thread. Check it out sometime.
    [QUOTE=''Shirokishi_'']Hakanakumono has already made a quite frankly better hype thread. Check it out sometime.[/QUOTE]fourth poster to say that. I think TC gets it. And this is a perfectly good hype thread.
    my thread aint over yet.
    [QUOTE=''Drakes_Fortune'']my thread aint over yet.[/QUOTE]

    Give them nothing,but take from them...Everything!!!
    [QUOTE=''Lto_thaG''][QUOTE=''Drakes_Fortune'']my thread aint over yet.[/QUOTE]

    Give them nothing,but take from them...Everything!!![/QUOTE]

    Nooooooooooooooo, for the love of God, no more 300 quotes!!!!

    I think people still do those damn quotes on FFXI, I can't stand it!!!
    [QUOTE=''Chutebox''][QUOTE=''Lto_thaG''][QUOTE=''Drakes_Fortune'']my thread aint over yet.[/QUOTE]

    Give them nothing,but take from them...Everything!!![/QUOTE]

    Nooooooooooooooo, for the love of God, no more 300 quotes!!!!

    I think people still do those damn quotes on FFXI, I can't stand it!!![/QUOTE]

    :lol:...I imagine the epic battle that ensues.
    its gotten quite a bit AA scores from what i saw, so ill hype AA. The ones rating it lower have all been western reviewers for the most part, which may not bode well for it. still got it preordered though.
    Drakes_Fortune, I already have an extensive hype thread.
    It's a shame really you did so much work on this thread. Next time look before posting Hakanakumono posted way before you. Maybe you two can work together on the thread he already started. I am sticking Hakanakumono thread so I will be closing this one. Sorry